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soph ([personal profile] sophia_sol) wrote2013-01-29 09:33 pm

Les Miserables 2012 Movie Cast

NEXT UP: the 2012 movie soundtrack! WHAT IT TOTALLY COUNTS, it is a different experience listening to it as a soundtrack in the context of other soundtracks rather than as part of a movie.

For one thing, this soundtrack goes for less "pretty music", which works in the context of a movie but is a little disconcerting when listening to it as music qua music. Valjean's "Who Am I", for example, is not particularly pretty, but it is successfully very emotional.

Although something I found interesting is that this is the soundtrack I've heard thus far that is the least interested in being pretty, and yet it also has the only Grantaire who actually sings in an aesthetically appealing way. Apparently most people take the "Grantaire was ugly and a drunkard" and decide that he ought to sing unmusically. This movie disagrees. WHICH I DO NOT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH, as George Blagden is great, but it is an interesting comparison with EVERYONE ELSE EVER.

Anyways! It was cool to now hear Colm Wilkinson as the Bishop now that I am familiar with him as Valjean. By his voice he's clearly the same actor, though older! He does well as the Bishop, and I think I actually like him better in that role than as Valjean.

Something that confused me when I watched the movie and which continues to confuse me is why Thenardier puts on a French accent for part of Master of the House. It is a WEIRD DECISION. I do not get it.

Enjolras is good stuff here. Different from Anthony Warlow but just as good. I AM SORRY MICHAEL MAGUIRE, YOU JUST DO NOT MEASURE UP.

I have mentioned in previous posts that I am a fan of Eddie Redmayne as Marius. He is a fantastic Marius! A+ casting. I'm a little confused why so much of tumblr seems to be in love with his face (I like his Marius and he looks and sings and acts well for the role, but his face would not be my personal choice for Most Attractive Face in that movie. He probably wouldn't be in the top five, even.), but that's okay. To each their own.

OH AND I HAVEN'T EVEN MENTIONED ANNE HATHAWAY AS FANTINE YET. Because if it isn't BLINDINGLY OBVIOUS TO YOU SHE IS THE BEST FANTINE EVER then I just don't know if I can handle how wrong you are. :P

CONTINUING, with Javert. I very much like this Javert, though I know he's not up everyone's alley. He is very different Philip Quast -- much gentler -- and even more so than Terence Mann. But even though he's clearly a DIFFERENT Javert, he's also still clearly a Javert.

Valjean I have no opinion on, as apparently I'm just like "yep, it's a Valjean" with every Valjean I've heard thus far. Either it's hard to go wrong with Valjean or everyone works very hard at casting the right people for Valjean, and I haven't decided which yet. :P

I found it an interesting (in a good way!) choice to make Gavroche sing the descant ladies' part in Drink With Me. I've always been a little confused by where the ladies come from in that song in the stage musical, as I've never actually seen the stage show. Were there ladies fighting on the barricade with Les Amis? Or were they just magically there as backup singers?

So they decided, on this one-cd-long highlights album, to put on the instrumental track of the final battle, when there's all sorts of actual singing bits they chose not to include. INTERESTING CHOICE, PTB. I mean, I like that instrumental bit! But you chose to include that and to NOT include Grantaire's verse of Drink With Me! I DISAGREE WITH YOUR LIFE CHOICES. Also I could do without "Suddenly." Like, whatever, I like it better in the context of book!Valjean's relationship with book!Cosette, but it's still not a song that appeals to me very much and I don't anticipate listening to it much at all (if ever). MY OPINIONS OF THE HIGHLIGHTS ARE DIFFERENT THAN YOURS, PTB.

Anyways, then I got all choked up during the ending bit, which I didn't do for the TAC or the OBC and have never done for the CSR, which is interesting. I'm trying to decide whether it's because this recording does a good job of conveying emotion (which, I mean, it DOES), or whether I'm just in a more emotional mood today. Both are possibilities!
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[personal profile] skygiants 2013-01-30 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
I used to get choked up on Gavroche's death when I was listening to soundtracks as a teenager; now it's the end that gets me. I don't know if that's the changes between the soundtracks, or changes in me, OR BOTH.
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[personal profile] melannen 2013-01-30 06:54 am (UTC)(link)
Oh great, now I have "Drink With Me" stuck in my head again. And I was almost free!

...I always visualized that song as being set back in the wine-shop, and the female voices are the women who work in the shop. Though that doesn't really make a lot of sense now that I think about it more deeply.
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[personal profile] cahn 2013-01-30 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
heeee! I just listened to the movie soundtrack yesterday myself! I'll probably post on it later, but yeah, weirdly, listening to it has kind of reconciled me to Crowe's Javert being different and good even if it is not the Javert in my head :P :)

I do think they take a lot of care with casting Valjean, and they kind of have to, since he's onscreen like, the whole time. ahahaha, I love "Suddenly" like anything -- I mean, I actually kind of think it's a crap song as a musical entity, but hearing Jackman sing it -- there's one part where his breath catches and it gets me all teary every time.

I thought in the movie they took out Grantaire's verse entirely! Which, I agree, I did not like that decision, but I don't think it was a CD-highlights cut.

[identity profile] reconditarmonia.livejournal.com 2013-01-30 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed about the random backup singers in "Drink with ME"!
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[identity profile] sophia-sol.livejournal.com 2013-02-04 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
YES GOOD. And I agree with myself particularly hard now that I have read the barricade part of the Brick, and although Hucheloup and the two servers are there at first they DO NOT STICK AROUND LONG ENOUGH to be backup singers!

[identity profile] angevin2.livejournal.com 2013-01-30 03:09 am (UTC)(link)
There are definitely women on the barricade in the stage version. You know the part in the movie where Enjolras says that anyone who wants to can leave the barricade? In the stage version he says "Let all the women and fathers of children go from here." (It's on the CSR, right before the "Drink With Me" reprise which hasn't been in the stage show since I think 1997, a cut that breaks my heart. As does the omission of Grantaire's verse in the movie because DAMMIT YOU HAVE AN AWESOME GRANTAIRE.) There aren't any in the book, though, and the movie follows that, possibly because in a movie the women don't have to sit around in the greenroom for nearly all of Act II doing nothing. (This is also the reason "Turning" exists at all.)

ETA: Here's a picture (http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-kdIxWyvnl7g/Tvfv2EOGPxI/AAAAAAAAA2o/t1RDto4gi-M/s1600/LM08.jpg) of the barricades from the stage version, with women!

I am not completely sold on Eddie Redmayne's face either -- there's nothing wrong with it, but he looks too much like a teenage boy for me -- but man, he is absolutely adorkable as Marius, isn't he? One thing I love about the movie is that they got a Marius and Cosette who a) have chemistry and b) radiate pure cuteness, which is pretty much what you have to do with those two in order to keep their scenes from being an island of boring on the way to the good parts.
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[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2013-01-30 06:03 am (UTC)(link)
One thing I love about the movie is that they got a Marius and Cosette who a) have chemistry and b) radiate pure cuteness, which is pretty much what you have to do with those two in order to keep their scenes from being an island of boring on the way to the good parts.

HAHAHA TRUFAX.

I have never managed to be that vested in Cosette before. I kind of want to cuddle her and take her on adventures.
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[identity profile] sophia-sol.livejournal.com 2013-02-04 05:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh huh, interesting! I had somehow managed to block from my mind the memory of that line of Enjolras' but now that you mention it I totally remember it. Having all those women on the barricade is definitely a departure from the book. YET ANOTHER DEPARTURE. But your explanation as to why they're there in the stage version does make sense.

Redmayne's face looks EXACTLY like that of an awkward teenage boy, which is part of why he's so perfect in the role! I guess maybe the bits of tumblr that are in love with his face are teenage themselves? And so "teenager" is an attractive look to them? or something? Anyways, yes, the movie's Marius and Cosette are successfully very cute together which is JOB WELL DONE for the movie.

[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2013-01-30 06:02 am (UTC)(link)
For one thing, this soundtrack goes for less "pretty music", which works in the context of a movie but is a little disconcerting when listening to it as music qua music.

Man, yes! After three viewings, I am pretty okay with most of it in the movie, but the soundtrack just...blurs into the background compared with any of the cast recordings (although I still prefer it to the OLC).

Although something I found interesting is that this is the soundtrack I've heard thus far that is the least interested in being pretty, and yet it also has the only Grantaire who actually sings in an aesthetically appealing way. Apparently most people take the "Grantaire was ugly and a drunkard" and decide that he ought to sing unmusically.

A lot of the cast recordings have Grantaire singing in a gravelly voice UNTIL Drink With Me, when he suddenly discovers how to sing musically. I am not sure how I feel about that, but apparently I am also shallow and will not complain about anything George Blagden does, on account of his smirky faaaaace.

The first thing I saw Eddie Redmayne in was Pillars of the Earth, where he is basically a thousand-yard-stare creeper (I feel like this is a trend for Marii, since the 1998 movie cast Hans Matheson of the Original Creeper Face), so I gotta admit, I don't quite get all the swooning, but I fucking looooooove him as an actor at this point and Marius is a little bit of a creeper, so whatevs.

I think I hate "Suddenly" and the decision to cut, say, LOTS OF STUDENT THINGS the most of all the decisions in the movie I'm not fond of. It's just so. fucking. boring. And clearly an Oscar grab. It does not advance the plot or do much for Valjean's characterization.
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[identity profile] sophia-sol.livejournal.com 2013-02-04 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
What do you hate so much about the OLC? Is it worth listening to at least once, if only just for the experience?

GEORGE BLAGDEN'S SMIRKY FAAAAAACE IS THE BEST. It is too bad that his next role (something about vikings?) does not look like it's gonna be a smirk-fest for him. He looks all srs bzns in the trailer I saw, although admittedly very ATTRACTIVE srs bzns. (and you're right about the contrast in Grantaire's voice between Drink With Me and all his other lines. It is for this reason that until EXTREMELY RECENTLY I had no idea that verse was sung by Grantaire!)

DO YOU KNOW WHAT I REALIZED LIKE, MOMENTS AFTER POSTING THIS REVIEW? One of the things they cut from the released soundtrack was Do You Hear The People Sing! Which was one of the BEST DONE BITS OF THE MOVIE IMO and it is traaaaaagic that they didn't release it! THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT THAT ON THE CD INSTEAD. Also yes, the movie did remove way too much studenty bits and makes them all way too interchangeable and it is ALSO TRAAAAAAGIC. SIIIIIGH

[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2013-02-04 06:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I should be kinder to the OLC! It is very much worth listening to at least for historical reasons, to get an idea of the original sequence of songs and orchestration. However, if you've imprinted on later versions of the show, the plodding tempo of some key songs may drive you up the wall. Iirc, the cast is pretty good.

The movie highlights are also missing "Look Down," "Lovely Ladies," and a bunch of other songs usually included on highlights cds. The general consensus is that it's a cash grab and a full recording will be released later.
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[identity profile] sophia-sol.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 05:31 pm (UTC)(link)
Good to know! Well, I shall check out the OLC at some point then.

And I am GLAD TO HEAR the general consensus is that a full recording will be released later because SIGHHHHH.

[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 05:42 pm (UTC)(link)
We don't know for sure, but I think they'd be stupid not to...I mean, hell, I'd buy it just for DYHTPS and "Look Down," and I need more Les Miz recordings like a hole in my head.
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[identity profile] sophia-sol.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 05:44 pm (UTC)(link)
they WOULD be stupid not to, seriously.

(NO SUCH THING AS TOO MANY LES MIS RECORDINGS!)

[identity profile] carmarthen.livejournal.com 2013-02-05 06:35 pm (UTC)(link)
My long-suffering partner who doesn't understand my propensity for listening to different back-to-back covers of the same song would probably disagree. :-P Although he's been very tolerant of my rabid Miz obsession....
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[personal profile] china_shop 2013-01-30 06:36 am (UTC)(link)
I don't have anything to contribute, but I'm really enjoying your reaction posts, fwiw. A+
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[identity profile] sophia-sol.livejournal.com 2013-02-04 05:50 pm (UTC)(link)
Awww, thank you so much! ♥♥♥